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Robert at 18:37, 22 November 2011

2011-11-22T18:37:21Z

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	I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .		I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .
	:There definitely is no ATA password, and I don't know of an HPA. I'm not even sure if the CE-ATA drive supports HPAs. The hiding of the firmware partition is most likely done by the iPod firmware. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)		:There definitely is no ATA password, and I don't know of an HPA. I'm not even sure if the CE-ATA drive supports HPAs. The hiding of the firmware partition is most likely done by the iPod firmware. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

	~~How ?~~
	~~Isn't that pretty much what HPA/DCO's where created for ?~~
	~~Have you verified if there is a HPA/DCO or not ?~~

	~~( I don't have the setup to do it myself atm.~~
	~~Also, I don't know of any tools that reliably can detect a HPA/DCO~~
	~~over a USB-connection ?)~~

	~~I see posts on the internets suggesting there IS in fact a HPA/DCO, at least on some models ..~~
	~~http://forum.hddguru.com/toshiba-apple-ipod-protected-harddrives-t10669-40.html~~
	~~(Yes, it's for the 5G, I know, but there has to be a reason that you can't just transplant any HDD~~
	~~with the right interface you like, to an ipod, right ? (And there's only one ipod using CE-ATA AFAIK) ?)~~

	Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there		Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there
	is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1",		is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1",

	and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .		and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .
	But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..		But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..
	:emCORE/Rockbox is a proper controller for that kind of operation. And WinHEX has a lot of problems with non-512 byte sectors, causing it to miscalculate a bunch of sector numbers. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)		:emCORE/Rockbox is a proper controller for that kind of operation. And WinHEX has a lot of problems with non-512 byte sectors, causing it to miscalculate a bunch of sector numbers. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

	Or maybe the numbers don't add up because the HPA is there and thus the numbers reported are faked ?		Or maybe the numbers don't add up because the HPA is there and thus the numbers reported are 'faked' ?

Robert: /* 1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout */

2011-11-22T18:35:11Z

1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout

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	I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .		I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .
	:There definitely is no ATA password, and I don't know of an HPA. I'm not even sure if the CE-ATA drive supports HPAs. The hiding of the firmware partition is most likely done by the iPod firmware. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)		:There definitely is no ATA password, and I don't know of an HPA. I'm not even sure if the CE-ATA drive supports HPAs. The hiding of the firmware partition is most likely done by the iPod firmware. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

			How ?
			Isn't that pretty much what HPA/DCO's where created for ?
			Have you verified if there is a HPA/DCO or not ?

			( I don't have the setup to do it myself atm.
			Also, I don't know of any tools that reliably can detect a HPA/DCO
			over a USB-connection ?)

			I see posts on the internets suggesting there IS in fact a HPA/DCO, at least on some models ..
			http://forum.hddguru.com/toshiba-apple-ipod-protected-harddrives-t10669-40.html
			(Yes, it's for the 5G, I know, but there has to be a reason that you can't just transplant any HDD
			with the right interface you like, to an ipod, right ? (And there's only one ipod using CE-ATA AFAIK) ?)

	Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there		Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there
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	But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..		But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..
	:emCORE/Rockbox is a proper controller for that kind of operation. And WinHEX has a lot of problems with non-512 byte sectors, causing it to miscalculate a bunch of sector numbers. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)		:emCORE/Rockbox is a proper controller for that kind of operation. And WinHEX has a lot of problems with non-512 byte sectors, causing it to miscalculate a bunch of sector numbers. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

			Or maybe the numbers don't add up because the HPA is there and thus the numbers reported are faked ?


	(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)		(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)
	Robert		Robert
	:What would a partition table be good for? Superfloppy seems like the straight-forward choice to me. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)		:What would a partition table be good for? Superfloppy seems like the straight-forward choice to me. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

TheSeven at 20:04, 15 November 2011

2011-11-15T20:04:38Z

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	I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .		I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .
			:There definitely is no ATA password, and I don't know of an HPA. I'm not even sure if the CE-ATA drive supports HPAs. The hiding of the firmware partition is most likely done by the iPod firmware. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

	Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there		Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there
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	and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .		and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .
	But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..		But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..
			:emCORE/Rockbox is a proper controller for that kind of operation. And WinHEX has a lot of problems with non-512 byte sectors, causing it to miscalculate a bunch of sector numbers. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

	(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)		(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)
	Robert		Robert
			:What would a partition table be good for? Superfloppy seems like the straight-forward choice to me. --[[User:TheSeven\|TheSeven]] 20:04, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Robert: /* 1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout */

2011-11-15T16:41:58Z

1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout

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	Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there		Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there
	is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1" ,		is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1",

	and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .		and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .
	But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..		But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..

	(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)		(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)
			Robert

Robert: /* 1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout */

2011-11-15T16:40:57Z

1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout

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	Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there		Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there
	is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1" , and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .		is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1" ,
			and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .
	But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..		But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..

	(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)		(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)

Robert: 1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout

2011-11-15T16:40:40Z

1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout

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== 1G/2G/3G Classic HDD-layout ==

I'm pretty certain there is a HPA/DCO on those drives, and that ATA pw is set .

Also, when viewing the physical disk of my emCore'd Classic in win-hex (over USB) there
is a 120MB entry,listed as "FAT1" , and the technical report complains that " FAT1 < FAT2 " .
But the disk needs to be connected to a proper controller for any accurate results ..

(Why the super-floppy formatting btw ?)