Nanotron 3000 - Revision history

User890104 at 23:07, 19 August 2010

2010-08-19T23:07:37Z

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	{{Outdated\|reason=This project is an old attempt at [[Address bruteforcing]]}}		{{Outdated\|reason=This project is an old attempt at [[Address bruteforcing]]}}

	Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the ~~Linux4nano~~ team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like [[Sto]] used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.		Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the freemyipod team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like [[Sto]] used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.

	== Completed Nanotrons ==		== Completed Nanotrons ==

Farthen: /* Farthen */

2010-08-07T00:46:20Z

Farthen

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	This is my first nanotron. I had some mechanical difficulties and needed to rebuild it~~. I'll upload some~~ pictures of ~~the second~~ one ~~at some time~~.		This is my first nanotron. I had some mechanical difficulties and needed to rebuild it, unfortunately no pictures of that one have been taken.
	==== Specific technical details of my nanotron ====		==== Specific technical details of my nanotron ====
	* motor for pressing menu is connected to motor slot 1		* motor for pressing menu is connected to motor slot 1

Farthen at 23:40, 6 August 2010

2010-08-06T23:40:48Z

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	~~'''NOTICE:~~ This project is an old attempt at [[Address bruteforcing]]~~.''' Nanotrons are no longer needed.~~		{{Outdated\|reason=This project is an old attempt at [[Address bruteforcing]]}}

	Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like [[Sto]] used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.		Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like [[Sto]] used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.

Cmwslw: /* Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods */

2010-08-05T15:11:10Z

Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods

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	== Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods ==		== Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods ==
	{\| ~~border~~="1"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	! Action		! Action

Cmwslw at 03:04, 13 July 2010

2010-07-13T03:04:42Z

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	~~Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched~~ an ~~ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms~~. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like Sto used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.		'''NOTICE: This project is an old attempt at [[Address bruteforcing]].''' Nanotrons are no longer needed.

	== Nanotrons ==		Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like [[Sto]] used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.

			== Completed Nanotrons ==
	=== Farthen ===		=== Farthen ===
	[[File:Nanotron-3000-farthen-1.jpg\|200px]]		[[File:Nanotron-3000-farthen-1.jpg\|200px]]
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	[[File:Nanotron3g4.jpg\|200px]]		[[File:Nanotron3g4.jpg\|200px]]

	This ~~nanotron~~ is built from stuff I either had or could buy cheaply and is constructed for hacking the Nano 3g. The main parts are the servo motor and the Arduino microcontroller. Both are extremely cheap and the whole thing is powered entirely through USB. The two arms which ~~rests~~ on one rubber ring each, ~~comes~~ from a ~~bicylce~~ wheel and as can be seen in the pictures they bent too easily and had to be reinforced by steel wire. One such ring, when placed correctly, is enough to push down two buttons on the iPod simultaneously. The servo was also not entirely up to the task which explains the complicated pulling arrangement. The Arduino program is five lines long, and on the whole it is extremely easy to set up.		This Nanotron is built from stuff I either had or could buy cheaply and is constructed for hacking the Nano 3G. The main parts are the servo motor and the Arduino microcontroller. Both are extremely cheap and the whole thing is powered entirely through USB. The two arms which rest on one rubber ring each, come from a bicycle wheel and as can be seen in the pictures they bent too easily and had to be reinforced by steel wire. One such ring, when placed correctly, is enough to push down two buttons on the iPod simultaneously. The servo was also not entirely up to the task which explains the complicated pulling arrangement. The Arduino program is five lines long, and on the whole it is extremely easy to set up.
	The software is a slightly modified version of cmwslw's code.		The software is a slightly modified version of [[cmwslw]]'s code.

	== Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods ==		== Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods ==
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	=== Testing for freeze ===		=== Testing for freeze ===
			'''This info is sort of outdated but possibly useful.'''

	Currently, the easiest way to test for a working iPod is to look for a line similar to:		Currently, the easiest way to test for a working iPod is to look for a line similar to:
			<pre>
	[ 9275.123081] scsi 17:0:0:0: Direct-Access Apple iPod 1.62 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0		[ 9275.123081] scsi 17:0:0:0: Direct-Access Apple iPod 1.62 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
			</pre>
	in the kernel logs. There is a delay of a few seconds before this is displayed. Frozen iPods will either keep generating USB errors or show nothing at all (if the cable was plugged in late). Careful attention will need to be made to make sure past log entries do not interfere with the current test. Perhaps we could fiddle with the log level/verbosity to only show important info. If anyone knows an easier way to test this, let us know.		in the kernel logs. There is a delay of a few seconds before this is displayed. Frozen iPods will either keep generating USB errors or show nothing at all (if the cable was plugged in late). Careful attention will need to be made to make sure past log entries do not interfere with the current test. Perhaps we could fiddle with the log level/verbosity to only show important info. If anyone knows an easier way to test this, let us know.

	TODO: post kernel logs and investigate reboot log behavior		TODO: post kernel logs and investigate reboot log behavior

Farthen: Undo revision 2667 by 84.160.246.70 (Talk)

2010-07-05T11:57:38Z

Undo revision 2667 by 84.160.246.70 (Talk)

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	~~<nowiki>��EE��A�� 3��# �� #��3��# ��EEEEEEEEE</nowiki>~~Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like Sto used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.		Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like Sto used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.

	== Nanotrons ==		== Nanotrons ==

84.160.246.70 at 11:46, 5 July 2010

2010-07-05T11:46:16Z

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	Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like Sto used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.		<nowiki>��EE��A�� 3��# �� #��3��# ��EEEEEEEEE</nowiki>Because of the immense amount of time it will take to brute force the 3G and the 4G by hand, the Linux4nano team has hatched an ambitious idea. We have decided to build a brute forcing robot with LEGO Mindstorms. We can leave this bot running overnight and hopefully find out the correct addresses. If the LEGO idea is not feasible we can resort to using transistors like Sto used on the 2G. This would be more expensive but easier IMO.

	== Nanotrons ==		== Nanotrons ==

Kartoshka at 22:12, 16 December 2009

2009-12-16T22:12:44Z

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	The software is a slightly modified version of cmwslw's code.		The software is a slightly modified version of cmwslw's code.

	== ~~Technical details~~ for 4G ==		== Timings for resetting and rebooting iPods ==
	*Time to hold down menu and center buttons to restart: exactly 5 seconds		{\| border="1"
	~~=== Cable disconnected ===~~		\|-
	*Time to reboot to main menu: 17.5 seconds		! Action
	*Time to ~~reboot~~ to disk mode: 2-3 seconds ~~depending on how quick you can press it~~		! Nano 4G
	~~=== Cable connected ===~~		! Classic 2G
	*Time to reboot to main menu: 35 seconds		\|-
	*Time to reboot to disk mode: 11 seconds		\| Reset
			\| 5 seconds
	~~For some reason booting up with the cable connected doubles the time to boot up, but we pretty much have to use the cable.~~		\| 5 seconds
			\|-
			\| Reboot to main menu (cable disconnected)
			\| 17.5 seconds
			\| 28 seconds
			\|-
			\| Reboot to main menu (cable connected)
			\| 35 seconds
			\| 28 seconds
			\|-
			\| Reboot to disk mode (cable disconnected)
			\| 2-3 seconds
			\| 4-5 seconds
			\|-
			\| Reboot to disk mode (cable connected)
			\| 11 seconds
			\| 4-5 seconds
			\|-
			\|}

	Using the times I've gathered, we can make a timeline of how our process will work, starting from disk mode:		Using the times I've gathered, we can make a timeline of how our process will work, starting from disk mode:

Cmwslw: Unprotected "Nanotron 3000"

2009-12-15T18:43:51Z

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Cmwslw: Protected "Nanotron 3000" ([edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite))

2009-12-15T18:43:40Z

Protected "Nanotron 3000" ([edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite))

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